Tuesday, December 23, 2008

Like Sands Through The Hourglass

In light of recent developments, I have decided to wean myself off of Effexor. It is not a decision I made quickly and I have exhaustively researched the positives and the negatives and, for now, the good far outweighs the bad.

After reading several reports, I also found out that the withdrawals from the drug are horrendous, sometimes even requiring hospitalization. I read the list of symptoms with growing horror. "My God. This is great. Homicidal thoughts, drooling and mouth twitching. Super. In a couple of days, I'll be that guy from Slingblade."

With that in mind, I am taking the safest route, although it is the most laborious. Last night, I began counting grains in the capsules and each day, I will remove three more than the day before.

As I painstakingly pulled the capsule apart and began counting the tiny mood-altering, immune-system depleting granules of death, Chris walked in. "Whatcha doin', babe?"

"Oh, good. I need your help. Count these. But you cannot lose any."

He willingly helped and as we were both hunched over our tasks, tongues poking out and sweat beading our brow, Devon walked in.

"Hey, babe," I greeted him.

"Uh. Hey."

"I suppose you're wondering what we're doing."

"I really don't think I want to know."

"Well, money is short this year," I continued. "So, we're having to resort to selling drugs."

"Ok."

He turned to go and I stopped him long enough to explain what we were really doing. "It's disturbing to me that you didn't even question my explanation," I said.

"Nothing surprises me in this house," he answered.

"So, when you see me on the five o'clock news on an overpass with an uzi, wearing a party hat and screaming about the naked leprechauns, you won't require therapy?"

"I surpassed the boundaries of what therapy could ever do for me about two years ago."

"Right-o. Carry on."

Later that night, I was laying in bed while Chris was holed up in the closet (where he has been banished with his Mac and his Ebay addiction) and I was teetering on the edge of blissful sleep. A few seconds into the beginning of what seemed to be a promising dream (I still love you in my dreams, Matthew. YOU MAN WHORE) the overhead light came on and woke me up. Chris was nonchalantly adjusting his pillows while I glared. "Hey. Asshole."

He looked up, surprised. "Wha..?"

"I was SLEEPING. Eyes closed. Why'd you turn the light on? Rude. I wouldn't do that to you."

"It wouldn't bother me."

"Not the point! At all! Turn the light out. Gah."

He turned it out and climbed into bed. Now, Chris and I share different blankets and sheets. I'm not a cuddler. He is. I wrap up like a burrito. He uses his blanket like a toga. I use one pillow. He has eight. EIGHT. Sleeping with him is a nightly choreography of fluffing and adjusting and placing and stuffing and wrapping and HOLY FUCKING SHIT WOULD YOU JUST LAY STILL, ALREADY. After he finished with all of this, I felt movement close to my back. I sleepily protested. "No! No burrowing! I feel you burrowing, do not burrow!" He continued on with his hand until he found the opening in my blanket and, then inside, a warm spot on my ass to rest it, thereby letting in a breeze of cold air and ruining my perfect cocoon. He sighed in contentment and I ranted. "Asshole! Light turning on, mole-rat burrowing asshole! I should cut your hand off."

"I think someone needs their three grains of Effexor."

I think someone needs to give my husband a place to sleep.

129 comments:

Anonymous said...

I've just got to say that I love you! I've so been there and felt that way. NO WAY can you stop writing. You make me smile everytime!

Enjoy the holidays - surely you'll have LOTS of material to write about!

Chedder Fish said...

I STILL LOVE YOU!! KEEP WRITING!! I know we all need breaks so I totally understand. I did have some withdrawal a few months ago after I spending a week during work reading from the beginning every day but I love your updates because I when I do get them they are wonderful.

WyzWmn© said...

who cares what they think
don't write for them
write for you
the rest will fall into place

Happy Happy Merry Merry!

Deanna said...

Look on the bright side. You'll truly savor french fried taters.

just beth said...

Oh god. My husband is like that. He currently only uses six pillows because I threw three away. They were starting to stand up on their own, they were so old and nasty.

And? Joking about my anti-psychotics (ok, they're anti-depressants, but anti-psychotic is a much more apt description) is NOT a good idea if you ever want to get laid again.

xo, hang in there, we're all rooting for you...

b.

just bob said...

I slowly weened myself off of Effexor last year. It probably was not too difficult for me because I was only taking 150mg per day. Still, I had some migraine intensity headaches that were debilitating at times.

Please be careful and take things slowly as you step down your dosage.

Dawn Elizableth said...

I do hate when the sanctity of my cocoon is violated! It should be illegal to break the barrier! Still funny as always! Happy Holidays!!!

Ru La Re Jo said...

As someone who has gone off FOUR such medications in her lifetime, I can completely sympathize (although none of mine had the homicidal thought side effect...yikes). I can promise you two things: It will suck. And it will get better. I promise, cross my heart and hope to die.

I can also sympathize with the SO that flips and flops, having similar issues with my ex and my current boyfriends. My ex and I shared blankets, so when he'd roll up into his little "Justin-doobie", he would take all the blankets with him. >.<

And the "jumped-the-shark" idiot was just that. Ignore him/her and remember that we all think you're awesome :D *hug*

Mathair Mayi said...

I still love you and your writing. That said, I caution you about the self-weaning. I've been there and it makes me worry about you. please please PLEASE don't do it without help from the therapist. **hugs**

Crystal said...

Hi Mathair,

No worries. I know I'm not bullet proof. Still seeing therapist and I won't continue if it gets debilitating.

xo

dneylon said...

The worst part for me coming off Effexor was the nightmares. Felt very hallucinogenic. (thank god for spell check)

karynmtz63 said...

I applaud your writing, my friend. Every writer has downtimes. In my humble opinion if you didn't you'd be writing about nothing. We cannot bare our souls 24/7, or we'd have nothing to bare.

Thank you for writing.

Kimberly said...

LOL . . . I thought I was the only person who makes their hubby sleep with his own blanket. My hubby is 6'4" and always freezing, so he wraps himself like a burrito. I am always hot, so I have limbs hanging out all over the place. When he rolls over, he rips the blankets off of you like a magician pulling a table cloth off of a table covered with plates.

He snores, so it's my rule that I "ALWAYS" get to go to bed first. That way I am dead asleep when he comes to bed. When we make up our king size bed, we each spread out our twin size blankets, side by side, and off we go.

Sevesteen said...

Wouldn't it be easier to find one of the carry-outs that sells the cheap little drug-dealer scales, and use that instead of counting?

Lisa from South Africa said...

I was also on Effexor. I wish someone would have told me that there is no easy way to come off it, because I would never havetaken it otherwise. In the end I decided to go cold turkey and was sick for days.
It was a good decision to get off it though, and I dont regret it for a minute.
Keep going Cystal.. you can do it:)

Rachel said...

The hubby requires a hand on my ass to be able to sleep. I feel like I'm some kind of X-rated Linus blanket....

mendifae said...

Crystal, you are hilarious! 'Nuff said!! Good luck with the weaning. I have taken myself off of Prozac and while it does make you feel like crap for a while, things do get better. Sending you hugs!

Becci said...

Hi sweetie..I'm a long time lurker and don't often comment....but for the first time, I had to read to my hubby the part "Sleeping with him is a nightly choreography of fluffing and adjusting and placing and stuffing and wrapping and HOLY FUCKING SHIT WOULD YOU JUST LAY STILL, ALREADY".I suddenly realized I could be that pillow flipping, bed rocking, sheet twisting partner! Ok, I AM that person! I apologized to hubby (of 37 yrs!) but failed to promise it would change! lol...I love your webhome, and always look forward to your updates! lol

Elizabeth B. Alexander said...

Well, I just love your writing, but you should always do it for yourself.

Good luck with the granule method. I went down 37.5mg each week at a time and it was hellacious. I was useless for a couple of weeks, and I've never yelled so much in my life. It is indeed, an evil life sucking drug. Wyeth should be shot.

Tracey said...

Your writing has always been good, in my opinion. If someone is not happy then they can go elsewhere. This is YOUR blog, and you write what you want or need to.

Please be careful weaning away from the effexor.... scary stuff.

Happy Holidays!

Neil Ford said...

There is no way you have "Jumped the shark". You have had one heck of a year, moved house, have a "Light turning on, mole-rat burrowing asshole!" of a husband and three (wonderful) kids to wrangle, so it's no wonder if you have the occasional off day. And by 'off' I mean, not immediately side splitting, just damn well funny.

As for Chris needing a place to sleep. have you considered a hammock in the garage? :)

Hugs and stuff
- Neil.

Amy said...

I used to be on Effexor and holy shit if I missed a day, then all Hell would break loose...LOL..I hope you fair well with your weaning.

On that note, does that mean your blog posts are going to get even funnier than they already are? I was laughing my ass off at this post and my 5 year old is looking at me like I have 7 heads. She's also sitting right next to me and thank God she can't really read yet..LOL

R said...

Oh, you crack me up. I hate when my husband does that! And he DOES!

Ignore the shark poster. May they get eaten by one.

Hippie Confessions said...

Effexor withdrawal is not that bad for everyone. Try not to assume that it will be horrible after reading awful stories... your anxiety will make it worse. (I speak from personal experience.) I'll keep my fingers crossed that you're lucky. Just remember, it's not permanent :) Good luck!

And until you have a serial killer in a clown costume, you haven't jumped the shark. Seriously Heroes, WTF!

LiLu said...

I have a goddamn burrower too. Tell him to keep his cheese OUT of your burrito!

TigressLover said...

nah havent jumped the shark!! you stillrockas much asever. hellyou been busy -- joke em if they cant take a fuck (Says Robin Williams) you keep on keeping on & You will always have me!! as far as the effexor, i always just went cold turkey but thats the way i do everything hehe... the only time i weaned off was when my doc wanted to switch me to zoloft. you go girl, you rock on!! & Happy holidays to you & yours!

Diane said...

Crystal, please remember why they put you on meds in the first place. The reason you feel so human again is because of the meds. Please, please do this under the care of your doctor. You dont want to end up where you were before in that horrible state of depression. Your writing is a gift that no one or nothing can take away from you, it has always been there, it was just harder to find with all the changes in the brain chemistry. It sometimes takes a while to adjust to meds, it really has not been that long in the scheme of things. Please reconsider or do this with the help of your dr, there are so many drugs that are out there, Effexor is not the only one, try something else. Sorry I am rambling but I care what happens to you and your family.

the pawnbroker said...

after having to kill chris, please make prior arrangements to have access to the 'net there in prison and/or padded cell custody...

'cause you wouldn't want to be the direct cause of a whole bunch of folks going through b.i.dr.p. "withdrawal", now would you?

jtc

Jolene said...

love you girl!

that is all that I have to say.

Merry Christmas!

Anonymous said...

I can't believe you can see into my life, that's exactly how my husband and I sleep. He always wants to get into my covers and I get *so mad* because he's ruining the warm spot! I'm all the way up here in Manitoba, Canada, where it's currently -27C (-16F), and I need the heat!

Black Hockey Jesus said...

When I came off effexor, I got those weird all over body lightning zaps. Did you read about those? Not bad, mind you. Just trippy. You're just doing what you're doing and bzzz. Good luck to you. I didn't have a rough go - just funny electro zaps.

Becky said...

Can you tell me where you got your info on Effexor? I've been scouring the net, I just keep finding crap from the maker of it. I'm on it, and I've been experiencing some of the side effects listed (I didn't take it for a few days and got the lightning zaps like another poster said-I went to the doc and he said I had shingles!). I've also been sick for nearly a month with various colds...wondering if my immune system is down, too?? Thanks...btw, I LOVE your blog!

Angell said...

I'm laughing here, so hard I'm crying into my pink santa hat.

Glad that you're writing again Crystal. But above all else, I'm glad that you're ok - well, whatever passes for ok in the McKnob household.

We love you no matter what darlin'.

Mamapajama said...

Hey Crystal,
I'm so happy your writing again, you are one of the many blogs I read on a regular basis that I really, really look forward to reading. I know you've had a lot of stuff going on this year but I was curious about two things that you never addressed in your blog. What happened to your dog and what happened to trigger your breakdown earlier this year? Are they related? I feel totally nosey asking these questions, but it feels like an important piece of your Crazy Chronicles are missing. Just a thought, don't feel obligated to answer. Thanks.

Sunnie said...

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be careful coming off the Effexor. I did it and it was a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE experience. I wouldn't wish what i went through on anybody!! If I had known how bad it was going to be I would have never ever started taking it.
Maybe you will be one of the lucky ones that doesn't have much trouble!!
Wishing you luck...got my fingers and toes crossed for you!!

Tara said...

Ok, so you should seriously make shirts that say "I think someone needs their three grains of Effexor." and make a gazillion dollars.

I laughed so hard that I snotted. Gross, I know, but you don't mind!

Happy Holidays!

Stormy said...

Hilarious Crystal!
You better never stop writing....it isn't just therapeutic for YOU, you know....

Little Nut Tree said...

ohhhh that was laugh out loud funny. I wrote a similar post a couple of weeks ago... I think we're a cross selection of the same habits... in fact I think all people are..

funny funny funny

KBear said...

LOL!! Im sorry, you sound like my husband!

I am constantly shuffling around, and it takes me forever (even when I wasn't pregnant) to find a comfy spot to lie down, and I toss and shuffle and Matthew constantly gets frustrated and tells me to fucking lie STILL already!:)

Good to know he's not alone:)

Michelle said...

I was at one point on Lithium and Effexor, and seemed ok when I stopped taking them (of course the people I that I left shaking and crying from my wrath may disagree!).

I'm glad to know that my husband and I aren't the only ones that have separate sheets and blankets! He wraps himself up and I need a breeze!

Persnickety Ticker said...

I laughed until I was in tears on this one. Crystal. That is why I love you!

Best wishes on your med withdrawls. Hope it goes smoothly.

Fuck all the shark jumping comments. I say, as long as you aren't fucking jumping sharks, it's all good. Unless you are into that...and in that case, well...I don't judge.

Just do what makes you happy.

Lala said...

There has never been a shark to jump! What a goof. Blogs are soap operas, not feature films.

Anonymous said...

Okay - well... I was going to tell you to be careful with the Effexor and make sure to talk to your psych and all...but I see about 40 billion people got here first. I'm glad you are aware and being careful.

*hugs*
Tiggy <--- who lost her PW again
:-D

Anonymous said...

Okay - well... I was going to tell you to be careful with the Effexor and make sure to talk to your psych and all...but I see about 40 billion people got here first. I'm glad you are aware and being careful.

*hugs*
Tiggy <--- who lost her PW again
:-D

bloggiefever said...

If you stopped writing we'd have to hunt you down on the overpass while wearing the party hats!

As for the effexor, Oh. Hell. Yeah. Gradual weining is a must. My teenager was on it. When I questioned the doctor to see if it was still really necessary, she said he could just stop taking it.

I can't even begin to describe what happened over the course of the next weeks but at one time, we really thought he was trying to kill me. (was trying to shove me down the stairs). It wasn't until we switched doctors that we found it was due to him going cold turkey on the cocktail of drugs the previous doctor had him on. One was Effexor.

So, how many grains were in the capsules?

missmommie said...

Hey, if you have to kill Chris, just blame on coming off the med, that's even better than PMS!!!! But I do like the hammock in the garage idea!!

Anna

kjax said...

I see a lot of people have already commented, but thought I'd throw in my 2c worth. I weaned off the Effexor a few years ago. It wasn't that bad. No homicidal thoughts or anything. I weaned slowly and had started taking Wellbutrin also. The worst part was what I called "pings" to the temple. Just little electrical shocks to the temple. All. Day. Long.

If you don't mind miniature ECT treatments all day, not bad at all.

Take care of yourself.

SassyTwoSocks said...

LMFAO. Awesome story. Fortunately for me, my fiance and I both sleep at an approximate 30-degree angle with our stomachs facing down. We both require 2 or 3 pillows and don't like cuddling when it's sleepy time.

Sam said...

I've stopped effexor and it was very bad. I would never take it again just because the withdrawals sucked so much ass-and I've quit quite a few things in my day. I'd ask your dr. about taking something to help take the edge off the withdrawals, I've heard it really helps. Good luck.

Kaleb said...

I went off Effexor according to Hoyle with stepdowns etc. Doctor monitored and all.

I got the dizzies...that was almost manageable, but we figured out WHY I was dizzy. My blood pressure went UP while on Effexor, to about 130/90. While coming off Effexor, it dropped to 100/60. No WONDER I was dizzy! It was a few months before the world stopped spinning.

Of course, the docs didn't WARN me about this until AFTER I was coming off of it because it made me MORE suicidal---as if I needed to pay money to take meds to make me feel that way!

argh.

good luck and don't kill the hubby--he's willing to sell drugs with you to pay the bills without question! ;-)

wagabu said...

I was on Effexor for close to a year when my blood work came back with very high liver enzymes. The doctor freaked out and told me to stop taking any medications of vitamins until they could find the cause.

I was TERRIFIED to stop the Effexor cold turkey, but I did.

Two years later, I'm still here. :)
The withdrawal sucked, I had a lot of 'brain shocks' and other weird things, but I did manage to get through it.

Good luck on your tapering off. I hope the effects are minor and go away quickly.

Wyvren said...

Hun send your shark jumper my way.

We have specialized shark diving days here in sunny Cape Town South Africa.

I know they use cages, but im sure we can bribe the guys to forget the cage? Swimming with the great white sharks here would maybe teach him/her a lesson.

Keep focused babes, your a hero for all of us. Still so proud of what u do and have achieved.

One day when i grow up i wanna be like you!

Kim said...

Ya know what, Crystal? Fuck the shark jumper! Not literally, but damnit, that pisses me off! This is a BLOG not a full time fucking job for the writer. Holy hell, I guess some people may not consider the fact that you have a LIFE outside of this webpage so they THREATEN TO LEAVE?? Don't let Google hit you in the ass on your way out, asshat. Next time don't make such a dramatic exit and you will spare us all the grief. Grow up, will ya?

Great writing, Crystal, but honey, I read you whether you are "on" or not. I have a husband, kids and a job myself, so blogging is not my first priority, nor is it yours. Good for you.

amaelija said...

Oh my golly. It was recommended that I go on anti-depressants, and Effexor was one of the suggestions. A friend told me to stay far, far away because of the withdrawal side effects. Reading your story has helped me to rule out Effexor. Good luck!

Jennifer said...

Crystal

omg! that was effin hilarious! I am that wiggling, burrowing, always cold so I put my cold hands, feet and ass on the warm person, driving someone so crazy that no one wants to share my bed. I am a perpetual wiggler awake and asleep. It's a good thing I am divorced because I sleep under a huge pile of blankets, one of which is electric, and I sleep catty-corner on my queen sized bed, and flip and turn all night long. I drove my ex crazy at night because I took my half of the bed on 3\4ths of the queen bed and would move around and steal all the covers. I only use 2 pillows tho.

Please, please, please be careful with your medication. Keep in constant contact with your therapist and doctor. Those types of drugs can be very nasty and cause problems you could never imagine. Everyone is different, so you may or may not experience the same kind of problems.

As for the jumped the shark comment, I am not completely sure what that means, but ignore the fucker who said it. This blog is yours, and you write what you want. It is here to make you feel better, and we read it and love it no matter what you write. You don't write for our entertainment, you write as a stress reliever. Its a side benny to us that what you write is so damn funny. We understand that you aren't always going to be funny, and that sometimes you are sad and\or serious, and that is perfectly fine. We love all your moods and will read and love it, no matter the mood.

So ignore the naysayers and keep writing for your own pleasure. You don't have to please us, just please yourself.

Bad Mummy said...

Shit, you are a far more dedicated gal than I. The docs decreased my effexor by 37.5 and I ended up in the crisis ward of the local hospital. Where they kindly asked my mother to put her knitting needles away (always bring a friend for crisis ward visits; you'll need a witness to corroborative later).

Me lurves my Effexor happy pills! Ttho...come the new year...the doc wants to try the weaning project again. Check my blog for the results. Fun shit!

Ella said...

my ex was a cover stealing, pillow hoarding, bed hogging em-effer! i am so blissfully happy to be in that big ol' bed all by myself that i do everything i can to take up as much room in it every single night. if i ever remarry (gah!) i have pretty much decided he'll have to put a twin bed next to mine. i'm done sharing.

Gayle said...

Hi, All. Apparently I'm the replacement for the jump the shark guy. Usually when somebody leaves, three others show up. I think the other two wisemen ought to be here in a minute. They got distracted cooing over some kid in a manger down the street.

Crystal - You've had me laughing and crying for the past three days. And you've inspired me. I might actually reactivate my writing... someday... maybe. Keep up the good work!

courtney said...

Please be careful, we had a man at our church recently commit suicide, and the only thing they can figure is it was a side effect of some new medication. Not trying to scare you, but just it was a HORRIBLE tragedy. So PLEASE talk to your Dr about doing this, especially since you have had depression issues (he had not).

Ravingly Lucid said...

I've been issued the same warning about ever coming off my Cymbalta. But as of yet, I see no need to come off of it. It keeps me even.

Now my pain meds....that's a horse of a different color. I just had surgery and requested an early refill of my piddly hydrocodone. But what do they do instead? Put me on mother fuckin' MORPHINE tablets. Gee, if I thought I had problems before with withdrawl every month, no telling what I am going to go through now!

My doctor is my pusher man.

RivkA with a capital A said...

"Nothing surprises me in this house...I surpassed the boundaries of what therapy could ever do for me about two years ago."

Classic!

There is something decidedly backwards when, as parents, we behave more outrageously than our kids!

The One and Only Gaborg said...

Up to this day, I did not know what Effexor was.
Now that I do, it still sounds like a He-Man era villain to me.

Anonymous said...

Hey Crystal,

The internet is full of scary Effexor withdrawal stories but, as a healthcare professional, I can tell you from personal experience and the literature, the vast majority of people taper off it pretty easily... here's hoping you're with the majority!

~J

Jes and Tony said...

Annnnd, she's back! Hooray, Crystal! ;-)

I went off Zoloft and had these ungodly brain zaps where if I turned my head in any direction, it felt like my eyes took a few seconds to catch up to where my brain was trying to point them to. It was absolutely frigging awful. Not as bad as homicidal thoughts and drooling, but unsettling enough to warrant a few trips back to the doctor who prescribed them so I could ask him just when the hell THAT would be stopping, thankyouverymuch. Take it easy, babe, and happy holidays to you and yours!

rebekah said...

I was on Effexor once, and I was always hard pressed to find someone who had also been on this medication. I wish you the best of luck and grace weaning off the drug. It took me a while to wean and in the end I lost about 15 pounds from being sick. I called it my effexor diet! Anyways that was in 2004 and I haven't been on meds since. I love your blog and your honestly. You deserve all the happiness and joy in the world!

Adney said...

Lurker coming out of the shadows here, but you might try asking your pharmacist if they have an extra counting tray and a spatula you can have. That should make your granule counting a whole lot easier. If not, then try counting them on a cutting board, using a butter knife. Not sure how you're currently counting them at home, but just thought I could offer an idea to help!

beyondpanic said...

Crystal,
I've been on the effexor magic bean for over two years and it has changed me life in such a positive way that I can't imagine my life without it. So far, the biggest problem with it is my cholesterol levels have increased. Is there a new, horrible sudy that I should know about?

Christy said...

I have been on and off Effexor a few times and I have to say withdrawal is pretty bad. Just take it easy. I, too, can't imagine life without it.

Used*to*be*me said...

oh who gives a shit what some asshole leaves in a comment. I love you regardless of meds or not. xoxo and Merry Christmas!

Mrs.CTW said...

I <3 You! You are awesome. And my hub does the same crap!!

As for the A-hole who threatened to leave... Bye!! We won't miss you! ;-)

SUEB0B said...

Your description of Chris and his pillows made me howl because it is EXACTLY like me.

Catherine said...

I weaned off of Effexor about a year and a half ago. and I have to tell you, the withdraws were horrible. I have never in my life had night sweats, headaches, terrified of different things. I do not know what was wrong with me. and honestly....I don't want to ever ever know again. I ended up taking six weeks off of work to wean off of it. Good luck and be careful. I've not been on anything for a year now, but i'm going to have to go back on something soon...or loose my sanity...but I have to wait until after my daughter is born in about eight weeks...

June Cleaver said...

Uh...Crystal....wouldn't it be easier to just open the capsule, count out 3 grains (or whatever number you've weaned down by) throw them away and take the rest?

And I feel for Chris. While I only have 2 pillows, that's only because I can't fit anymore in the bed once me and Hubby and the 2 kids and the dog (who is the same approximate size of a pigmy hippo) are all piled in the bed. And, I ahve a very specific position I need to be in AND Hubby better be in his cooresponding position because there will be hell to pay if my right arm doesn't lay just as it should across his chest.

Good luck with the Effexor. I came off Oxy cold turkey, not even thinking I might go through withdrawl since I was taking it exactly as prescribed. I dind't have homicidal thoughts but I sure as hell had some suicidal thoughts. It gets easier. Just hang in there.

Return Of Saturn said...

Crystal, best of luck with your effexor situation. I hope you will keep us posted on how it goes. I have been taking it for about two years now, and would really like to stop as well. I have experienced some awful withdrawal symptoms after accidently skipping only a dose or two. No one understands when I tell them "When I move my eyes side to side, it feels like someone is shocking my brain." Or, "Ugh, I can't handle anything right now, I've got Brain Zaps!!"

I hope you're doing this under a super qualified doctor's care. I made the mistake of starting effexor on the recommendation of my family practice doc, who clearly didn't consider withdrawal/tapering effects when she prescribed it.

I'll be thinking about you. Please take care of yourself!!!

Pixie said...

Keep us updated on the Effexor thing. Hubby is on it and now I'm freaked out if he ever decides to get off of it.

No shark jumping here! You're still making me laugh a bunch. MWAH!! :)

Don't ever change.

Jon said...

Merry Christmas to you Crystal and all that share your section of the universe.

Keep sitting on your hands when necessary. Bail money is hard to raise during the holidays.

KellyH said...

Piss on what others think...I still think you're hilarious. God...can't anyone have a down spell? Get a life buddy. If I'm not spitting my coffee out on my computer screen (glad I read these at work and not home....), I'm at least smirking, smiling or tearing up....isn't that what a writer or friend is SUPPOSED to do? Have a great Christmas!

The other me said...

I came off Efexor, without any side effects in one month because I had acupuncture and accupressure which I swear saved my life, got me off the sweating like a pig but need it to be sane pills. I have had slumps since ( mainly due to having a daughter addicted to cocaine and living on the streets)but I am determined not to use meds if at all possible ( and sometimes those things are literally life savers.) Acupuncture somehow healed my soul, I felt better than I have for many years and am so convinced that it was responisble for my being able to get off the drug they say you can't stop taking, In fact after 3 weeks of intensive acupuncture ( well 3 sessions a week which seemed a lot to me!) I realised that I had forgotten to take the Effexor and felt so well I didn't start again. I was on the lowest possible dose though. Good luck!

R said...

LOL Crystal!! You totally just made me spit out my water! (luckily I missed my keyboard and my boss didn't hear me!)

Hubs & I also sleep in a similar way... although I'm the one burrowed under the flannel sheet, down comforter and with only one pillow (well - a couple right now that I'm 11 days or so from giving birth... two under the head, one under the feet!) and Hubs is the one on TOP of my damn covers wrapped up in his own comforter with 4 pillows :) I hate when he gets to bed before me and lays on my blankets so that I can't adjust them to cover me!! drives.me.nuts.

also - he has to sleep with the fan on, and in total darkness - I don't need the stupid fan, and can sleep through almost anything - including lights on... MOST of the time. :)

Anyway - thanks for the update (and a hilarious one it was!!) I'm been a little lax about getting into BlogLand and reading lately - but I haven't gone far - or for long! I'll always be back - I LOVE YOU!!

Have a great holiday season! Merry Christmas - and good luck getting off the Effexor :)

ukyankoz said...

Crystal, I just love ya!

I'm glad you're back, but I think you're so friggin awesome I'm coming back whether you post or not just to giggle at old posts! You do what you have to do to be well in your life, and everyone else will just have to deal with it.

About the Effexor - I hate to leave anything negative in a comment, but I also came off Effexor several years ago and it wasn't fun. No suicial/homicidal thoughts or anything, but I did get those zaps someone talked about. It felt like a minor electric shock through my body - not painful at the time, but gradually during the day I'd get headaches. And I'm (truly) sorry to say it lasted through the course of coming off the drug and for a few months after I was done. But I think if you come off like you say you are you'll be much better. Just give it a lot of time and come down gradually and you'll be ok. The best thing that came out of taking Effexor for me is to be able to tell people I meet to never take it!

You're gonna be ok, hun. Have a very merry Christmas and we'll see you when we see you!

ArkieRN said...

Had "brain zaps" when I went off my anti-depressant (celexa - has the same bad side effects as effexor). It took weeks for them to stop. It was like a giant shock inside my head every few minutes.

On the up side, since they went away, I've had no more problems and have been without depressive episodes for 10 months.

Good luck!!

Anonymous said...

Good idea to wean S-L-O-W-L-Y. I didn't last year and went into a full tilt emotional hell. Now that's not to say that dealing with adult children with children who haven't quite got the 'You're GROWN take care of yourself and your kids already' didn't add to my descent into the inferno, but that's another post...

Happy Holidays. Keep writing, I soo look forward to reading you more than you know.

CarmenSinCity said...

Hi Crystal!! I just wanted to wish you a Merry Christmas and a SAFE New Year. I love your blog - I'm a long time reader. So keep it up! We all love you.

Anonymous said...

I wish you well with your weaning, just remember that everyones experience is different. For the first year I was taking Effexor, I could always tell if I missed the timing on my dose, because I could hear my eyeballs swivel... (seriously, squeaking muscles from ocular swelling... it was actually kind of neat.) Now, if I miss dose because my sleep schedule is all messed up from activity, I just get a little dizzy. Also, when I was doing a remote job in the wilderness, I lost my meds in a river crossing, and went a week without 'em. Even going off cold turkey wasn't that bad, although by the end of the week, my anxiety triggers were all starting to fire like they would before I went on the meds. That calmed down once I got back to civilization.

I have to say that Effexor for me is the most effective, and least side-effecty of all the meds I've tried, from Paxil to Prozac to Zoloft and a zillion various things ending in "ipramine" or "til".

I just had to offset some of the horror stories. Remember people, reactions are personal, your milage may vary, and if you need medication, you've got to find the one(s) that work for you, just like shoes and underwear. :)

-Wally

Patois said...

Dude should be made to sleep in the closet.

Alaine said...

I had to quit the effexor too. I actually had symptoms that made the neurologist positive I had MS. I didn't count out grains though. Wow, that is dedication. I just started taking smaller doses. then every other day etc...

I'm a cocoon sleeper too. I get really pissed when someone breaches the blankets.

Alaine said...

oh yeah...and I read somewhere that Prozac helps when you are weaning yourself from Effexor. I did that and it was much easier that time.

Robin said...

What a great story! At our house, we're both snugglers early in the night and then I have to pull away lest I suffocate from the heat. Then we spend the rest of the night wrestling to find room among cats for places to put our feet.

My doctor took me off Effexor, after reducing my dose by half for a week, two years ago at Thanksgiving just before a family reunion. I got the dizzies and the nightmares and the constant electrical pings with corresponding "pulses" in my ear drum which made them impossible to ignore. I couldn't stop crying and over-reacting to the smallest slight, so I ended up hiding from my family for part of the time so they wouldn't think I was crazy. My husband called my doctor before we got home to get me back on the meds.

A month later my doctor switched me to Cymbalta. Earlier this year, I spent a weekend without my pills (the longest 4 days since that Thanksgiving) while waiting for my prescription to be refilled. The side effects were similar and I could have hugged the pharmacist when he gave me three pills on Monday to last until my doctor filled my scrip. I hate being dependent on this stuff. But theoretically it reduces my pain level so I hate to think how I'd feel without it.

A comment on shark jumping: if you ever strap on skis and actually try it, I bet that could be one of your best ever entries! And I would continue to love you always.

I admit I missed this comment. Was this person fussing that you didn't write much because you were moving your family from one house to another during the holiday season? *eye roll*

warcrygirl said...

This is precisely why I'm terrified of going on any anti-depressants. For now I'll use my light box and Happy Thoughts on the days I can stand them.

I had my own troll today; I hope the door didn't smack her in the ass on the way out.

igs4me said...

you still write great. screw the shark. much love. and have a great christmas, and new year!!! good luck on the weaning.

Anonymous said...

just a thought.. are you planning on counting out all the grains each night?? because an easier method would be to just take out whatever amount you did the previous night plus 3 more each night..

Crystal said...

unfortunately, the capsules dont contain the same amount. So, they have to be counted each time. :)

insanelybusymomma said...

LMAO, I like my cocoon too and my other half likes to not just snuggle but damn near suffocate me. Seriously, I feel your pain on that one.

Good luck and for Pete's sake be careful with the Effexor weaning.

Good luck to Chris for when he breaches the cocoon and gets injured. Better email Ambulance Driver for some tips on how to patch yourself up afterwards! LOL

cats in the window said...

The only one you are obligated to write for is YOU.

koehmstedt said...

Merry Christmas!

MiniKat said...

Sounds like a night at my house. Sleep usually involves earplugs and sound reducing ear protection too. Yay snoring. ;-)

Happy Holidays!

birdie23 said...

I didn't like effexor, now on Zolft which seems to be better, Way understand, please be careful!
I giggled endlessly about the covers. I'm a cocooner too. My husband wakes up in the middle of the night cause he has no covers. Hey idiot go to the linen closet and get one! Hang in there Crystal.

Dani said...

Just a word of encouragement, when I went off Effexor the only side effect (I noticed) was a little light headedness. I was also a little spacy and emptional but since I was pregnant at the time I'm not sure if that was the drugs or the pregnancy crazyness.

Anissa Mayhew said...

I guess I don't have a lot to add to the conversation at this point, but thank you for validating my need to NOT SHARE blankets with my husband. He takes it very personally, I like to be wrapped up and when he rolls over and leaves that pocket of air that flows down my back...I could kill.

X_LA_Native said...

I'm the one who runs hot; my husband, sometimes I wonder if I should just get him a heat lamp and a rock. All I want is enough comforter to cover my ass when I turn over, that's all. And Mr. Freeze calls me the blanket-stealer!

Good luck coming off the meds, and to the shark-jumper: pound sand.

Jerri Ann said...

IF I miss one dose of meds, my whole family is in danger.....there is no way I would wean and if you truly have a chemical imbalance, why would you want to wean? If it makes you feel better to take them, then why make yourself miserable during the weaning process and afterwards as well? Just curious.

Becky said...

Is there going to be another baby in the household by chance? Just a thought.....

Best of luck coming off the stuff. Hopefully it works out the easiest way possible.

Hope you had a wonderful, peaceful Christmas.

Kathryne said...

I swear, that is my EXACT same issue every night. From the cocoon in my nice warm blanket, to having the light turned on when I'm sleeping (I've disabled it twice to annoy him) to having sir cuddlebutt dig his hand in there so I get the artic winds blowing down my spine (not to mention COLD HANDS...) Sister, I feel your pain.

undercovernerds said...

I'm doing the Effexor wean too, and one book that was REALLY helpful was called "The Anti Depressent Solution". I'm also not having to count grains. I just reduce by 37.5 mg every 2 months. I find that the doses are such that you dont' get the massive withdrawal symptoms when reducing by that much... Prozac and some others have different half lives than Effexor, so you can reduce by a larger dose and it doesn't affect you as much.

Good luck! If you feel homicidal, just blog. It will serve the dual purpose of amusing us and saving your poor intended victom.

Lotta said...

Effexor worked for me. BUT it made me gain 70 pounds - ok 50 I did the other 20 on my own. And getting off of it is a doozy. You are smart to count pills and ease off it.

I'm loving my Wellbutrin now!

Angel said...

Hi. I gotta say that I found you through a link of another blog that I read. I started reading in the middle of your chronicles. I got to say that you had me in tears and laughing at the same time. Whenever I need a pick me up I read your blog. It's a daily check for me. Thanks for writting!!

Anonymous said...

... .bwhahaahahah.... that was excellent...... now you have to add in the snoring!....

Eric of SWG

Catmoves said...

Not being familiar with Effexor, I googled it and came up with: "Effexor XR Is Not Addictive
Effexor XR and other antidepressants are not addictive. You cannot become addicted to an antidepressant even if you take it for long-term maintenance therapy. An antidepressant is not a controlled substance like a narcotic or a stimulant."
It's from a home page with the URL http://www.effexorxr.com/about-effexor/antidepressant-information.aspx
I believe it's the maker of the drug. Sounds peachy keen, eh?
There is also an area there where a doctor will tell you how to How would you taper your dose for discontinuation of treatment.
Good luck, best wishes.

Jeanette said...

I weaned myself off of Effexor two years ago by opening the capsules, pouring the little grains out and dividing them into 8th's. I prepared two weeks worth at a time, and every two weeks I took off another eighth. It was very slow but it worked pretty well. I would have very minimum withdrawl symptoms for the first few days after taking the lower dose and then my body would adjust and i would be fine. It was pretty painless. I just didn't have the patience to count the grains. Good luck, you won't be sorry!

Kristi said...

Yep...I was on Effexor several years ago, too.

I did cold turkey....and the brain zaps sucked. It was 4 months before the effects were completely gone.


Then, without thinking because my depression was so bad, I was all "OK, I'll try the Cymbalta".

Yea right.

Now I'm trying to wean myself off of that. The side effects are exactly the same as Effexor.

ZAP!

I'm sure my Shrink will be thrilled when I tell her. HA!

Jackie said...

I was on Effexor when I was a teenager (600 mg daily) and coming off it was probably the hardest thing I've ever done! I had the "electric shock sensations" 24/7 for almost a month, it was wretched. I hope that your method gives better results. I wish that doctors would talk more about the symptoms of withdrawal more with their patients before prescribing Effexor.

Sam Hill said...

I don't know about Effexor, but I was on a Lexapro for quite a while, and had to wean myself off when I got pregnant. I was a true psycho (with reason!) for a while, although I've tapered off just a bit. Now I'm counting down the days 'til this baby arrives in March so I can start back up. More power to ya! :)

Career Guy said...

You may never get to this comment (#113), but I loved this one. Hilarious description of your husband's routine. Kathy clings to the rail of the waterbed on her side, falls asleep to the TV which I then turn off at some point. We do OK with our getting to sleep stuff. I wish you the best in your drug reduction program.

Jennifer said...

I myself am a toga-blanketer but I still feel your pain. Too bad for you having a magnetic ass.

Best of luck with your weaning.

Fire and only Fire said...

wow

Not Very Anonymous Mom said...

i'm going thru the effexor withdrawals right now - no fun.
but i'm so sick of having to pay for drugs i don't want to take.

you're doing it the smart way. me, not so much.

good luck crystal!

Martie said...

Just got off Effexor XR--and was put on Pristiq...same manufacturer. If I "forget" to take my meds for 2 days in a row I have MAJOR freak outs. I try not to forget. Plus my husband reminds me daily--if not 3 times a day. Apparently I am scary OFF drugs.

PS Congrats on your nomination for the blog thingy.

Anonymous said...

as a healthcare professional, I can tell you from personal experience and the literature, the vast majority of people taper off it pretty easily

Please find that vast majority and tell them to start posting their positive experiences because at least 80 percent of the personal accounts that I've read have been of the "living hell" variety.

Fortunately, neither of the doctors (an MD and a Psychologist) responsible for my being on Effexor were available last week when I really needed them. So, I went to my doctor of oriental medicine and a mixture of vitamins and herbal supplements along with two acupuncture sessions have me back on a mostly even keel.

For the record, I followed my doctor's instructions for getting off the stuff.

Anonymous said...

as a healthcare professional, I can tell you from personal experience and the literature, the vast majority of people taper off it pretty easily

Please find that vast majority and tell them to start posting their positive experiences because at least 80 percent of the personal accounts that I've read have been of the "living hell" variety.

Fortunately, neither of the doctors (an MD and a Psychologist) responsible for my being on Effexor were available last week when I really needed them. So, I went to my doctor of oriental medicine and a mixture of vitamins and herbal supplements along with two acupuncture sessions have me back on a mostly even keel.

For the record, I followed my doctor's instructions for getting off the stuff.

Neil Ford said...

Tara said...
Ok, so you should seriously make shirts that say "I think someone needs their three grains of Effexor." and make a gazillion dollars.


Definitely put me down for a couple of those. We may not have Effexor here in the UK, but everyone would get the message :)

- Neil.

Anonymous said...

I'm on max-dose Effexor XR and can tell when I've missed a dose: the brain zaps start. Good thing my shrink had warned me about them in advance! He tried to get me onto another antidepressant not long ago, in hopes of lowering the Effexor dose (and thereby decreasing the really annoying hand tremor side effects), but I started getting suicidal again. That makes ONE drug that actually works for me. *sigh* OK, so Effexor's not perfect - but it beats the f*** out of attempting suicide again!

As to any jackass commenters, we'll just feed them to the wolves. This is YOUR blog, and there are more of us (who love you) than there are of them. Some days your blog was all that kept me from slitting my wrists when I was in a really bad place. God bless you, dear lady!

Oh, and I think we're married to the same man. I wrap up in blankets even in the summer; he shoves the blankets onto the floor and opens windows when it's snowing because he's hot. One more hand reaching for my ass in the night and letting a a cold breeze into my nice warm cocoon, and he'll be sleeping in your garage next to Chris!

Paula Schmitt said...

This is fucking hilarious!!!! AND, sounds SOOOO familiar! I want to sleep peacefully - do NOT touch me. He shakes, twitches, jumps and moans in his sleep (he is the hubby), and wants contact...PLEASE, NO. No ass reaching - I'm with you Crystal.

True Blue Texan said...

"Nothing surprises me in this house" I think I've heard that comment before.

Followed closely by this one: "I surpassed the boundaries of what therapy could ever do for me about two years ago."

Teenagers. Gotta love em.

ishouldbedoinglaundry said...

I just stumbled across your blog (which is quite witty and fun to read) and saw this post. I hope you are doing well with the withdrawal. I weaned myself off Desexxor over a year ago and it is something I have not regretted even when I thought my head was going to explode and 800mg of motrin would not knock out the pain.

Betsey Booms said...

This is why I keep sharp objects away from the bed. I'm too tempted to use them.

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Ashleigh said...

Effexor is the devil...i quit cold turkey and the withdrawls were terrible!! I felt like i had electricity in my veins!

and i heart your blog!!!

Ashleigh said...

Effexor is the devil...i quit cold turkey and the withdrawls were terrible!! I felt like i had electricity in my veins!

and i heart your blog!!!

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